when i was in the federal government, ronald reagan was president and reagan said the government is not the solution. government is the problem. and he thought it was very funny to say oh, i'm from government and i'm here to help you. that was a good laugh line at a republican meeting. i think the democrats, despite what is going on, have stretched out their plans, barack obama agrees that there would be no taxes in the new budget, just spending cuts. the house democrats and house republicans would not accept that. so i don't think it's the same on both sides, and i think you ought to suggest them also in oklahoma. [laughter] >> i do suggest them in oklahoma and everywhere, all over the country. i think people are going to have different ideas about which party is worse than where they came from. certainly, you mentioned obama's outreach, and i think he did find an outreach. when he did, nancy pelosi said no, we won the election. it is kind of you know, it's kind of hard. some people are saying totally outrageous and nasty things. what we have to do is break it down where people like th